Possible to remove also the axes when frame=FALSE and grid=TRUE?

[pglpm]

Thank you for this fantastic lightweight plot function!

It's very close to something I wrote for my own use, so I'd be happy to switch to tinyplot, which is more carefully developed and maintained :)

I was wondering if there's an option to eliminate the thick axes bars completely when one has frame = FALSE and grid = TRUE, as in the enclosed screenshot.

If not, could this be added to the wishlist? :)

[grantmcdermott]

Thanks for the kind words @pglpm.

RE: your FR. It's definitely something I'd like to support (and have wanted to for a while). What we'd need to do is settle on a consistent argument interface. I think axes = FALSE needs to retain its current behaviour of removing all axes elements to ensure consistency with base plot. But perhaps we could support switching off the lines only with something like axes = NA?

P.S. A broader goal for the next release of tinyplot is to support theming elements. So a user could just call, say, tinytheme("minimal") and it would invoke this setting for all plots.

[zeileis]

If axes can take values other than TRUE and FALSE in tinyplot(), one could also go for something like axes = "ticks" (or another verbal description). This is easier to extend in case further types should be added in the future.

Instead of using axes one could also use xaxt and yaxt which are intended to be type specifications via character descriptions. The problem is just that de facto only "s" (standard) and "n" (none) are supported.

[grantmcdermott]

Good points @zeileis. We actually don't support x(y)axt in tinyplot(), so that's something that should probably be fixed too.

So, is your thinking that we should support a "t" ("or "ticks") argument option for axes, xaxt and yaxt?

[zeileis]

My idea was to just go through axes and to come up with new descriptive names (such as "ticks") rather than just abbreviations (like "t"). The latter could be used by the end-users nevertheless due to match.arg().

However, compatibility with xaxt/yaxt might not be a bad idea. The catch is, though, that xaxt = "t" currently already works but has a different meaning. More precisely, the supported specifications are currently:

• "s": standard (default)
• "n": none
• "l" and "t": accepted for compatibility with S but actually equivalent to "s"
• everything else leads to an error with invalid value specified for graphical parameter ...

Given that compatibility with S is not important anymore, we could decide to give a different meaning to "l" and "t" if we want.

Last remark: While tinyplot(..., xaxt = "n") currently does not work, it is possibly to do (t)par(xaxt = "n") and then tinyplot(...).

[grantmcdermott]

Given that compatibility with S is not important anymore, we could decide to give a different meaning to "l" and "t" if we want.

How about:

"l" = "labels (only)"
"t" = "ticks + labels"

?

[zeileis]

And maybe also "a" for "axis" (+ labels)?

Internally, I would use something like:

axis_types <- c("standard", "none", "labels", "ticks", "axis")
if(is.character(axes)) {
  axes <- match.arg(axes, axis_types)
  xaxt <- axes
  yaxt <- axes
  axes <- axes != "none"
}
if (missing(xaxt)) xaxt <- substr(match.arg(xaxt, axis_types), 1L, 1L)
if (missing(yaxt)) yaxt <- substr(match.arg(yaxt, axis_types), 1L, 1L)

[grantmcdermott]

That looks great @zeileis. Do you want to put in a PR? Otherwise, I'll try to find some time over the weekend.

[pglpm]

@grantmcdermott

P.S. A broader goal for the next release of tinyplot is to support theming elements. So a user could just call, say, tinytheme("minimal") and it would invoke this setting for all plots.

That will be fantastic!

Regarding which option to use for omitting the axes, I'm happy with any of the proposals I'm seeing :)

Thank you all!

[zeileis]

Do you want to put in a PR? Otherwise, I'll try to find some time over the weekend.

I can try. The missing part is, of course, how to actually support this in the Axis() calls because these xaxt/yaxt specifications are not supported there. My idea would be to play around with the Axis() calls in https://github.com/grantmcdermott/tinyplot/blob/main/R/tinyplot.R#L1079-L1102 to obtain the desired effects. Are there other places?

Also, currently the default is frame.plot = axes. How to we want to handle this? Make frame.plot also accept character? Or make the default frame.plot = NULL and then choose the default internally based on axes?

[grantmcdermott]

My idea would be to play around with the Axis() calls in https://github.com/grantmcdermott/tinyplot/blob/main/R/tinyplot.R#L1079-L1102 to obtain the desired effects. Are there other places?

No, I think that should be be the only place.

Also, currently the default is frame.plot = axes. How to we want to handle this? Make frame.plot also accept character? Or make the default frame.plot = NULL and then choose the default internally based on axes?

Ah, good catch. The latter option of frame.plot = NULL seems cleanest to me.

[zeileis]

OK, thanks. I have prepared PR #190 now. I've left the default of frame.plot = axes because frame.plot is long before the axes are handled. So it seemed to be best to add some extra handling of frame.plot early on in the function. And then it doesn't matter much whether I also handle character or not. But maybe you have a better idea for this. See also the somewhat unintuitive case in the PR description.

[zeileis]

PierGianLuca @pglpm with PR #190 merged, you can now do:

install.packages("tinyplot", repos = "https://grantmcdermott.R-universe.dev")
library("tinyplot")
x <- 0:100/10
y <- sin(x)
par(las = 1)
tinyplot(y ~ x, type = "l", col = "steelblue", axes = "labels", grid = TRUE)

I think this resolves the main issue that you raised.

I don't see an easy built-in way, though, to change the number of ticks on the x- and y-axis (like in your plot) and keeping the grid aligned with it. Maybe Grant @grantmcdermott has an idea for this.

[vincentarelbundock]

This is a very cool feature @zeileis well done!

[grantmcdermott]

I don't see an easy built-in way, though, to change the number of ticks on the x- and y-axis (like in your plot) and keeping the grid aligned with it. Maybe Grant @grantmcdermott has an idea for this.

I think the best way is just to fiddle with (t)par(lab), e.g.

library(tinyplot)

op = tpar(las = 1, lab = c(10,10,7))

x = 0:100/10
tinyplot(x, sin(x), type = "l", col = "steelblue", axes  ="labels", grid = grid(lty = "solid"))

tpar(op)

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